I also live in a small city in Iowa. You might be surprised what resources exist besides your one club. My own community has a bar, but it also has both a men's and women's social group, a GLBT gardening club, a gay & lesbian parenting group, various religious groups, etc… It might be worth researching if this is something you're interested in exploring.

I also live in a small city in Iowa. You might be surprised what resources exist besides your one club. My own community has a bar, but it also has both a men's and women's social group, a GLBT gardening club, a gay & lesbian parenting group, various religious groups, etc… It might be worth researching if this is something you're interested in exploring.

Thanks for your thoughts. I believe I understand you points on affirmation and validation. My question was asked in that way to see if this was the way you approached all dialogue or just the issue of homosexual practice.

Did you take a look at the video on Post Gay? Curious about your insights?

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Jon,

I hope I explained myself clearly about making a comparison with homosexuality with bestiality. Please forgive me if I offended you, that was not my attention.

I come across some Christians with the hope of building bridges with the Homosexual community to the point of lacking consistent integrity across the spectrum of practices that I believe the Bible is clear on.

Would you dialogue or do you dialogue with people like me who would affirm the reality of your homosexual practice without validating your practices?

My best friend in college in the USA wrestled with his homosexual orientation and he knew my values and it never got in the way of our friendship.

But some of the people who I had close ties and relationships who were involved in homosexual practice wanted nothing to do to me when I became a Christian.

I live in a small city in the northwest of England and there is a total lack of opportunity to dialogue with "the gay community". There is a club that is gay only in town one night a week for 5 hours and you have to prove that your gay to get in to the club during those hours, because of the open violence toward them in this community.

So this question about dialogue for me is not possible, I do not know one person who is involved in Homosexual practice to even have a dialogue. I wish this wasn't true, but I would no longer intentionally look for a relationship with someone from the Gay community as the Black community. I seek friends, period.

Peace

Tim

I mean, it’s not like there’s any effort to legitimize or legalize bestiality. It’s not like bestiality and homosexuality are natural extensions of each other.

If people are truly concerned about bestiality, why wait to bring it up in the context of a discussion about homosexuality? Why not broach concern about bestiality on its own merit, unconnected to a discussion about gay people, relationships, or families?

Hope your talk in the Gay pub went well.

I was wondering if your still up to talk about some of the questions that I have or you want me to leave or ask you different questions in different ways?

Tim

If I am a bother to you on this, let me and I will stop and leave you be. These discussions are fascinating. I have read the articles that have been kindly pointed to me by Jon.

I want to get some clarification between Affirmation and Validation.

If someone was to come to me that I have no context for and as we got to know each other, this person revealed that they were a sexually active person of the same sex. I would validate that what they were experiencing was real as compared to ? Not real, imaginary, ?

And Validation is to confirm.

And when this person asks me what I believe I say what in this dialogue?

If I say what I believe the conversation may be over and at least we have communicated, we understand each other of we take the time to go a bit deeper in our respective insights?

Would you agree that if a person said that they were involved in beastiality or we would also involve the same process of affirmation and validation? If so, why? If not, why not?

Tim

Thanks John, Appreciate it.

Tim