Yes I still have serious concerns about the theology in your book and also your acceptance of things said by the gay community about science and theology but that doesn’t excuse my language.

I trust things went well at Spring Harvest and if you can get to the email with my mobile number on it or can give me a number to ring I’d love to talk to help clear up the mess I and others have helped make.

As to the AM stuff, I would ask you to re-read it or re-watch with the understanding that they are not trying to expose youi. They are pleased that someone is doing what you are doing but like me they have theological, sociological and missiological concerns about what you are doing and the way you are doing it.

GOD bless!

If Dr Nolland’s email was an issue please challenge her – she attended the presentation you gave and has heard you not just read your book. Her husband is a professor of New Testament at a leading evangelical college. As such he commented on your book from a position of theological understanding and has raised serious concerns about your theology. Groups like Redeemed Lives and others who work with the gay community and have done so for well over twenty years are raising serious concerns about your practice. Lisa has written on sexuality and culture, she works with young people in the secular field and knows her stuff – it is these people that are your fiercest critics because they deal with the flotsam and jetsam of the gay community. I regularly deal not with the vanilla stuff your book talks about but the red, blue, yellow and brown stuff of the whole bdsm field. How does your model work with them?

As I said in the post you so kindly deleted – those involved with the conference appear to be unaware of any request to dialogue with us or to attend the conference. Somewhere communication broke down – they did NOT refuse you as you claim so the finger pointing is as much from your direction as anywhere else. The ball is in your court. If you want to dialogue, as someone who has been involved with the Anglican Listening Process and has major UK gay leaders on hot dial on my phone I am willing to dialogue but are you willing to dialogue with people who are your critics?

I have also spoken with ex-gay ministries based in the Chichago area and none seem to have any success contacting you – so may be its not just me. A lot of people who have concerns about your theological position have the same problem.

I say this not to be combative, but to share how you come across to someone just getting familiar with your work. I recently purchased your book (at of all places, a conservative, Anglican seminary) because it was creating a stir within Church circles I frequent and I wanted to find out more for myself. I haven’t gotten far enough into it to fully determine if AM misrepresented your ideas, but it didn’t seem to me that they did. (And yes, I watched the entire video.)

So, here’s what was most off-putting about your response:

The AM session was NOT all about you. At least half, if not more of the session, dealt with the work of another author. And nothing was said that attacked or even challenged you personally – nothing about “how you live your life” as you put it. Your ideas were engaged and critiqued, which I assume people should expect when they publish something. It’s sad to me that you can’t separate that from your self.

The AM critique was not entirely negative. Much of it praised some of your most basic ideas. You seem to have missed that part, or at least you didn’t report it.

I can understand your desire to want to interact with AM leadership one-on-one, but I think it’s naïve to expect they would give you a public platform when they disagree so fundamentally about methods.

This post seems to be strongly influenced by past interactions you’ve had with AM, and I’m sorry those encounters were less than ideal. But that doesn’t excuse your very defensive and somewhat self-centered response. Had you responded to them differently, I would be much more inclined to give your book serious consideration.

BTW – Chad Thompson came to virtually the same conclusions as you did in his book Loving Homosexuals as Jesus Would, which was published in 2004.

I doubt this presentation will cause you much harm. It is basically empty and obviously biased rhetoric.

I finally had a chance to watch all of this and it made me very sad. It made me sad that people who’s orders and mission dictate they draw people to Christ by showing His love are using their positions to call out and attack the motives of a single individual trying to do the same, and then not letting that person respond. What a shame.

I’ve only known of your ministry for a few days now, but I want you to know it has already made a difference for me. It has given me, a Christian who happens to be gay, hope that there is at least one person out there who gets it. There is at least one person out there who can love without trying to “fix.”

Press on, Andrew! You are doing God’s work. I’m praying for you.

I read an article on line about Christians and the church in the U.K., but the main piece was that the average church goer in the U.K. is 61! I was shocked I think its time they change their rhetoric and know what it means to experience God and inspire a generation that is asking for guidance and spiritual awakening. Experiencing God will allow us to go into those places of tension and be authentic…Sorry this got long they are just my thoughts (of course with the help of my dad)

Wow, man, it’s been awhile. I’ve been really busy lately, so I rarely get to respond to any of these posts, but I read them faithfully

Anyway, I didn’t get a chance to see the whole vid (see above statement about being busy). I watched the first 10 minutes or so (they really didn’t get far into talking about you at that point), and then just skipped to the 46 minute mark as you suggested.

I join those above who (more or less) intimated that you should “count it all joy” that you’re suffering for the Kingdom of Heaven’s sake. Perhaps once the pain, anger, and disappointment subsides, you’ll actually be able to even FEEL some of that “joy” In the meantime, don’t let ‘em get you down. You are here to please NO man, woman, child or combination thereof. You are here to follow God in faith. And from what I can tell, you are as faithful as any guy whose chosen to walk this difficult path Jesus laid before us. Be encouraged, my friend. We’ll never get 100% agreement from anyone in the Church. If we did, it would be a pretty boring Church Granted, they’re being pretty crude and mean in some of their critiques. But hey, I guess that’s the log in their eyes they’ll need to deal with!